You can argue that debate is part of a Senators job, and to an extent, I agree with you. But there is a line, a line that DICK Durbin (D-IL) crossed when he accused our troops in Guantanamo Bay of being Nazi's, or the equivalent of the leaders of a Soviet gulag (or worse) in the following quote:Seditionist- 1. Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority
of a state. 2. Insurrection; rebellion.
On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and theNow, while I detest rap music, and would find that pretty torturing to have to listen to for a day, I don't think it falls into the specific definition of 'torture' per se. Back to dictionary.com for an answer:
temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking
with cold. ..... On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off,
making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The
detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him.
He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On
another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely
loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before,
with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent
describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most
certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or
some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly,
that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their
prisoners.
1. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.Just a note for you DICK, this isn't torture:
2. An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
3. Excruciating
physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
4. Something causing severe pain or anguish.
This is torture (warning- Graphic images follow):
(thanks to MyPetJawa for the pics)
Of course there are others, like the cases where Saddam's torture masters used to put a naked man in a cell. And while our guys merely put underwear on their heads, made dogs growl at them, or {gasp} made them pose in possibly gay looking poses, his ideas were a bit worse. He had a sprinkler system above each cell that would drip nitric acid down on the naked bodies of the prisoners.
The funny thing is, the liberal blogs are going nuts, defending this turd. The head of daily kos, which is a RABID anti-Bush, anti-Republican, anti-IQ, anti-common sense blog, has said that: "The torture that was so bad under Saddam, is equally bad under U.S. command. And Dick Durbin had the balls to say it so on the Senate floor. "
It doesn't take balls to say something like that. In fact, it's easy to criticize our troops. Especially when you haven't got the balls to stand up and do the right thing. When you don't have the balls to have served in the first place. Kos, you're a gutless, spineless, scumbag who by rights should have been sent to Iraq when it was under Saddam's rule to observe the torture methods first hand. Durbin, you're an idiot, bought and paid for by the New York Times editorial board, who is lucky enough to have been given the freedom to say such idiocy by the same people who you spew forth your vile crud out of your pie-hole. Do everyone a favor, and shut the hell up.
People of Illinois: Are you going to continue to let this schmuck just spout off this tripe, or are you going to let him know your opinions? To voice your opinion on his statement to Senator Durbin, here's his info:
Washington, DC - 332 Dirksen Senate Bldg.Washington, DC 20510(202) 224-2152(202) 228-0400 - fax
Chicago - 230 South Dearborn St.Suite 3892Chicago, IL 60604(312) 353-4952(312) 353-0150 - fax
Springfield - 525 South 8th St.Springfield, IL 62703(217 ) 492-4062(217) 492-4382 - fax
Marion - 701 N. Court St.Marion, IL 62959(618) 998-8812(618) 997-0176 - fax
You can also fill out a form on his website at http://durbin.senate.gov/contact.cfm or you could email him at dick@durbin.senate.gov.
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